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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Jul 12, 2012 11:20:56 GMT -6
Sounds like someone is offerring to do the schedule for next season
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Jul 12, 2012 11:29:52 GMT -6
If it gets me the same results as it did him I'm all in!
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Post by Colorado Rockies GM(John) on Jul 12, 2012 14:36:03 GMT -6
Lets add a couple wildcard spots, get more teams still involved later in the season.
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Jul 12, 2012 14:49:55 GMT -6
the problem with wildcard spots is there is no advantage for the guy who wins his division. No home field or anything like that. I'd say we have to figure how to give the teams who win their division some sort of reward as opposed to a guy sneaking in on the wild card. Maybe a free category? Maybe a bye week? I dunno but something
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Post by Colorado Rockies GM(John) on Jul 12, 2012 17:46:31 GMT -6
I would think if we added 2 wild card spots the top 2 division winners would then have byes in the first week of playoffs. As for advantages to the remaining 2 division winners, there is a good chance the wild card winners will have equal or better records than they do. Im not sure what other kind of advantage they are supposed to have. Being one of the 6 of 16 teams to make the playoffs should be considered an accomplishment in itself I would think.
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Jul 12, 2012 18:14:33 GMT -6
I dunno personally I am against it all in fantasy it doesn't give the division winners a big enough stake but I also see the reasoning for it so I won't stand against what you guys decide.
I just don't think teams necessarily play for the best record and definitely shouldn't. If this was roto it would be different but the whole purpose of this is just get in the playoffs. Now it's kinda like you can be the 6th best team but if you get hot for the last week you negate what the #1 team did all season long on a fluke luck sort of thing. I play to win my division, now to change course and make it all about record doesn't make much sense to me after this has worked for so many years with only one complaint.
My solution would be wild card teams start down 0-1 , which is basically like home field for the division winners. Or we could do something like one Wild Card team gets a weekend playoff against the worst record division winner. Short series just like real baseball. Still makes divisions worth something and makes being the "best of the rest" mean something, but just my 2 cents not battling this too hard, just doesn't make sense to change what's worked.
P.S. -- I am the guy who hates the wild card in real baseball too LOL
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Post by Red Sox GM(Landon) on Jul 12, 2012 18:25:05 GMT -6
I can see the argument for adding 2 more teams into the playoffs but nothing really makes sense as a way to add the teams. If 2 wild card teams are added and the 2 division winners with the best record have bye weeks and the other 2 play the wild card teams that works out but I agree that there should be some kind of benefit for winning your division. To me the only reason to add a wild card team would be if we had an odd number of divisions and the extra team would make the number of playoff teams balance but since we are at 4, which works out perfectly, I don't see a need to add teams.
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Post by Colorado Rockies GM(John) on Jul 12, 2012 19:08:24 GMT -6
I think we risk seeing the same teams in the playoffs year over year. You guys might be overlooking what goes on in sports in general anyways. Who thought St Louis was going to win the World Series last year, or the LA Kings as the 8th seed winning the Stanley Cup. Thats what makes it interesting. Anything can happen. Otherwise why bother with the playoffs at all, just award the title to the best regular season record. It even happens in our league already.
Anyways, I was just looking for a way to keep more teams involved longer. I think we might easily find more active owners that way. Some teams know they are pretty much done by Week 5 the way it is now. Heck, Cubs and Phillies are good teams but were screwed from week 1. One of either Braves or Cards are going to end up joining them.
Plus even in a worst case scenario it would be the teams with the #5 and #6 overall records getting in, which is still pretty good. If the season were to end right now, it would be the teams with the #2 and #5 overall records. I wouldnt say thats "crappy" but just my thoughts on it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 20:52:09 GMT -6
I think we risk seeing the same teams in the playoffs year over year. You guys might be overlooking what goes on in sports in general anyways. Who thought St Louis was going to win the World Series last year, or the LA Kings as the 8th seed winning the Stanley Cup. Thats what makes it interesting. Anything can happen. Otherwise why bother with the playoffs at all, just award the title to the best regular season record. It even happens in our league already. Anyways, I was just looking for a way to keep more teams involved longer. I think we might easily find more active owners that way. Some teams know they are pretty much done by Week 5 the way it is now. Heck, Cubs and Phillies are good teams but were screwed from week 1. One of either Braves or Cards are going to end up joining them. Plus even in a worst case scenario it would be the teams with the #5 and #6 overall records getting in, which is still pretty good. If the season were to end right now, it would be the teams with the #2 and #5 overall records. I wouldnt say thats "crappy" but just my thoughts on it. I Agree with all that's been said here! |
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Jul 12, 2012 20:58:36 GMT -6
I see your point Rockies but in all reality then why even have divisions I guess is more of my question. If we are just going to let 6 teams in, divisions mean nothing and records are everything then why not scrap the whole league concept that's worked for years and go to one big league, top 2 teams get a bye week, the next 4 play each other. Not saying that isn't a solution but I don't see why divisions would matter at all if we just let 6 teams in. So I think the bigger question is do we want divisions or just have the top 6 in
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Post by Colorado Rockies GM(John) on Jul 12, 2012 21:23:00 GMT -6
As in the real MLB, Im not sure how much the divisions mean anymore anyways. We used to have 2 big divisions with the new ones put together kind of randomly so its not like the current 4 divisions have been in place since inception. I have been in the playoffs the last 3 years so it would be easy for me to say it has worked too, but it might depend on which side of the fence you have ended up on in the past.
Dont get me wrong Im not saying its necessarily bad the way it is now, I do agree that it could build rivalries over the long-term if you play the teams in your division more often. I just personally think it would be better if we could have as many as 10 teams still alive in the last few weeks. And whereas you seem to think it would be a bad thing if the #6 team were to beat the #1 team in the playoffs.....as Roy Hobbs said in The Natural, I think "that would be the beauty of it". lol.
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Post by Red Sox GM(Landon) on Jul 12, 2012 21:28:32 GMT -6
I would like to keep the divisions but having more teams involved is definitely a plus. Even though it would only add one team what about something like the MLB put in this year, which I hate by the way, with the 2 wild cards. We cut back to three divisions, one would obviously have an extra team, the three division winners automatically in the playoffs and the next two best records play a one week match to get into the playoffs to play the top seed. It only adds one team and I'm not sure how it would work out setting up the schedule wise but it would add one team anyway and still keep the divisions in place
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Post by Atlanta Braves GM(T.J.) on Jul 13, 2012 7:32:07 GMT -6
- Wildcards have been discussed for a long time and personally I like it if not just for the fact that it keeps teams more engaged.
- Also, I like the divisions because, as previously stated, it breeds rivalries. Unfortunately the only real rivalry is Cards and I.
- A good scenario for a 6 team playoff is a 1-2-2 week playoff. Seeds 1 & 2 get a bye for the first week. Some will argue that the 1 week is to short and increases the chance that #3 gets beat by #6. I would lobby for the 5 week playoff just so we can keep as many regualr season weeks as possible.
- One thing mentioned before that I think is pretty radical is a losers bracket for the remaining 10 teams. Winner of the bracket gets the 1st pick and so on.
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Jul 13, 2012 10:06:17 GMT -6
- One thing mentioned before that I think is pretty radical is a losers bracket for the remaining 10 teams. Winner of the bracket gets the 1st pick and so on. I think this is genius!! This would and should get every team motivated to keep competing and would not reward the absent GMs. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2012 10:14:42 GMT -6
- One thing mentioned before that I think is pretty radical is a losers bracket for the remaining 10 teams. Winner of the bracket gets the 1st pick and so on. I think this is genius!! This would and should get every team motivated to keep competing and would not reward the absent GMs. Yup! Agreed here too! Cause in my case I was trying to Sell my players to get maybe the Worst Record but didn't really work that way yet hehehe |
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