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Post by Atlanta Braves GM(T.J.) on Jul 9, 2011 14:23:21 GMT -6
Braves send:
Jake McGee - prospect Robbie Erlin - prospect Philip Humber, $12 - 2011 Fausto Carmona, $9.10 - 2012
Dodgers send:
Tim Lincecum, $30 - 2011* Hiroki Kuroda, $2.50 - 2011+* $5 cap
I accept
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Post by Atlanta Braves GM(T.J.) on Jul 9, 2011 14:25:15 GMT -6
TAKE THAT YANKERZ
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Post by tanner on Jul 9, 2011 16:56:58 GMT -6
I accept
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Jul 9, 2011 19:21:19 GMT -6
Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2011 20:16:58 GMT -6
VETO!
For LINCY?? Come on... Humber Isn't even a RFA! And his K's Sucks!! And he's about to hit the Bottom... Carmona is CRAP or a BIG GRABAGE CAN!!! McGee didn't even take long to be send back down HELLO Farnsworth! And Erlin I Can't say anything About cause I dunno him... For Lincy and Kuroda Who is having a Very Good Year... And Both are RFA...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2011 20:19:40 GMT -6
AND Dodgers have to SEND or GIVE you 5M in CAP SPace??? Listen to this Song my friend... www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkytChj89TQ This SONG says it all... Bwoy can they see the Future on U Huh Braves?? LOL
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Jul 10, 2011 3:39:50 GMT -6
I have to agree with Cubs here, though I won't outright veto because it directly effects me and think that would be bias. The thing that gets me the most here is the $5 he sends and the RFA rights issue. The reason we have salary cap is to avoid late season dumping like this, and remember you can only send $5 all year. So dodgers not only makes a bad trade but handicaps himself as well.
Here's my take :
McGee is a better prospect than he's shown, won;t ever be a frontline starter but can develop into a solid non all start type player
Erlin is an unknown but has look bad at times in the minors more than he's looked good and no one would confuse him with a top prospect
Humber is having a great great resurrgence, no one saw this coming and it certainly won't continue like this but he can be a solid #3 starter for years ... problem is he is only signed this season
Carmona is absolutely useless
When I first saw the trade I said why not let it pass but when I saw that Humber , who is the biggest chip here was only a one year signing I have to speak up. Dodgers didn't make this trade with the future in mind (he loses timmy's RFA rights for basically Jake McGee) and doesn't have the now in mind. This is a clear case of late season dumping oh and he gets Kuroda for two years plus rights and sends $5 !!
You guys make the call because I'm in a bad position but I don't think that a perennial cy young candidate, his RFA rights, a very solid # 3 starter signed cheap for 2 years, and $5 M in cap space is fair for 2 iffy prospects, a guy with a 6 era who is signed to a bad deal, and a half year rental of a #3-4 starter is anywhere near fair. Again Just my two cents
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 8:23:35 GMT -6
Well I !VETO! cause IF McGee was a Hellboy than I wouldn't even comment on here... It's not like Lincy is a Bum yeah He's 7-7 but He's a PHENOM!!! 2 Times CY WSC I mean Come On!! The Song says it all...
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Jul 10, 2011 14:14:33 GMT -6
Hey Rockies cards wherever else is in the trade committe care to join the convo ? I'd just like one reason how this could possibly benefit Dodgers in any way at all. Looks like s very dangerous precident of obvious throwing a team away here but maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by Colorado Rockies GM(John) on Jul 10, 2011 14:22:38 GMT -6
Im not on the trade committee. And I dont make it a habit on commenting on other peoples trades. Different owners value players differently. You veto this then there are a bunch of other things you should probably start vetoing. If you can prove collusion go for it, otherwise.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2011 14:23:46 GMT -6
I dont have a veto vote but im just gonna agree with Yanks that this deal helps Dodgers in no way shape or form. Dodgers should be getting better prospects or at least some good draft picks. I have nothing against either team but this deal doesnt make sense. Dont hate me braves lol
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Post by Atlanta Braves GM(T.J.) on Jul 10, 2011 14:25:49 GMT -6
I will never hate anyone for voicing there opinion. I encourage it. Now snatching Axford and Downs away from me. That is grounds for hate!!
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Post by tanner on Jul 10, 2011 14:47:58 GMT -6
Part of the trade agreement was Braves agreeing to give me first dibs on getting his rights back because he didnt plan on resigning him
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Post by Red Sox GM(Landon) on Jul 10, 2011 14:59:08 GMT -6
I agree with Yanks and Cubs on this one. It just doesn't make that much sense. If Humber's contract was longer or if he was a rfa then it would be different.
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Jul 10, 2011 15:01:33 GMT -6
that is completely illegal and why I have an issue with the deal. You can not guarantee later trades , we had this issue in the first season "trades that were definitely going to be made" and such. If that was the reason for the trade then the trade has to be a veto now.
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