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Post by darealastros on Nov 11, 2011 14:19:34 GMT -6
Astros Send:
RFA to Carl Crawford RFA to Hiroki Kuroda
Tampa Bay Rays Send:
Grant Green (Prospect) James Darnell (Prospect) Pick 51 (Round 4) in 2012 Draft
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 14:42:45 GMT -6
Don't want to be a Dick but VETO too! If Kuroda goes to Japan and Crawford Goes for even $40M then he gave up 2 very good prospects and a pick for NADA?? Ban Serio!!
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Post by darealastros on Nov 11, 2011 14:44:09 GMT -6
He offered the deal to me.
You all may want to realized Darnell could miss next year with Shoulder Injuries.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 14:46:08 GMT -6
Yeah he told me he didn't realize Kuroda was a FA so try to Work something Out then...
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Post by darealastros on Nov 11, 2011 14:48:43 GMT -6
Things must have changed alot around here?
Before Veto's were given out for trades that stunk of collusion and that was it, not to protect people from making bad deals.
Also he's getting a proven all-star in Crawford and giving up guys who may or may not become anything. It's not like I'm getting the next Babe Ruth here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 14:55:31 GMT -6
Things must have changed alot around here? Before Veto's were given out for trades that stunk of collusion and that was it, not to protect people from making bad deals. Also he's getting a proven all-star in Crawford and giving up guys who may or may not become anything. It's not like I'm getting the next Babe Ruth here. Crawford maybe Lost it there in BoSox kinda like Renteria did when he was signed!! Btw it is Because of CRAWFORD Weakest and Sloppiest Play I ever saw from Him that Cost them that Game cause He SHOULD have Maken that Catch!!! So I'll judge him on that He STINKS!! LOL
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Nov 11, 2011 14:56:04 GMT -6
Green is still a first round pick that's the thing. Kuroda even if he does play this season he is a one year guy. Darnell misses the year but still has rights for 4 seasons. You talk about Crawford as if he will land him. It's only his rights, last season just over half of the teams who had rights kept their guys, it's far from a guarantee. So like Cubs said. If Kuroda goes to Japan and then Crawford goes for a higher amount that he will spend, he gave up a pick, a solid minor leaguer and a 1rst roudner for nothing at all. Take Green out and it's a good trade
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Nov 11, 2011 14:59:06 GMT -6
Allow - unrproven commodities for a proven one. This is a stellar deal for someone looking to build a team with a chance of winning. I'm not sold on grant green (they have another ss stud in the system) or darnell (that's the reason I dealt him and he is a padre) or the fact that he could use a fourth rounder effectively. Super stars don't get in your possession easily. This is what it takes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 15:00:51 GMT -6
Green is still a first round pick that's the thing. Kuroda even if he does play this season he is a one year guy. Darnell misses the year but still has rights for 4 seasons. You talk about Crawford as if he will land him. It's only his rights, last season just over half of the teams who had rights kept their guys, it's far from a guarantee. So like Cubs said. If Kuroda goes to Japan and then Crawford goes for a higher amount that he will spend, he gave up a pick, a solid minor leaguer and a 1rst roudner for nothing at all. Take Green out and it's a good trade I Agree! And I hate to agree with a Yankee Fan LOL but yeah same thing I had in mind if green is out Deal is Good
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Post by Red Sox GM(Landon) on Nov 11, 2011 15:02:00 GMT -6
Allow I agree with what Cards said
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on Nov 11, 2011 15:02:15 GMT -6
Cards IF he gets Crawford , that's the point, this in no way at all guarantees he gets a superstar, as a matter of fact no guarantee he even winds up with a single player here, but yes we all knew you'd agree because you're Kevin's lackey.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2011 15:04:02 GMT -6
i Regret accepting it I really did'nt know about kuroda till now soo do what youz have to do!!!!
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Post by darealastros on Nov 11, 2011 15:05:48 GMT -6
The thing is he asked me about Kuroda, he should have done his research.
You can't veto to protect someone from a bad trade if you feel it is one. Besides Cardinals is right on with his point.
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Post by adamdunnsbigstick on Nov 11, 2011 15:06:48 GMT -6
You actually havent accepted the trade yet. You have to post "accept" or "reject"
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Post by darealastros on Nov 11, 2011 15:11:17 GMT -6
I gave him two options to get Crawford and Kuroda and this was his PM response: looks like accepting it to me.
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