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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Sept 7, 2022 6:22:21 GMT -6
So is everyone in favor of realigning the divisions? After our discussions it seems that there is some support to going to one or two divisions but as Mets pointed out the 4 divisions does allow for more teams to have a chance. Which I agree so I'd like to stick with the 4 divisions and just realign. Is there a majority preference to go to 1 or 2? Thoughts? How does 4 divisiona allow more teams in? What if the best 4 are in one division?
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Post by Colorado Rockies GM(John) on Sept 7, 2022 8:03:27 GMT -6
I'm not sure how 4 divisions solves anything long term either, unless we are planning to realign every year based on the previous years standings?
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Post by New York Mets GM(Randy) on Sept 7, 2022 12:31:54 GMT -6
It depends on the answer we are trying to solve. There are hypotheticals and then there is the history of the last five years.
Cards, the best 4 teams are not going to be in the same division. That's never happened and still will not continue to happen. It's a hypothetical that has no basis in reality. It also never happens in real life either.
I also don't believe we are looking at answering the question of whether the best 6 teams make the playoffs or not. There will be times when someone who finishes 5th or 6th overall will miss the playoffs while a team that is 7th or 8th makes the playoffs. While that really stinks for that particular team that year, I'm not too concerned with the 5th or 6th place team missing the playoffs personally.
I think the bigger issue at hand is the amount of teams that are in contention for longer. While Yanks & Cards have had pretty big division leads for a while, the other two divisions have stayed pretty competitive until the last few weeks and there was decent competition for the wild card spots toward the end. The less teams there are that have a legitimate shot at the playoffs come the All Star break, the less participation we will see from owners. There will also be fewer buyers at the trade deadline, which means less moves (which I think we would all dislike). Keeping more teams interested for longer only happens if there is a chance for the playoffs.
I believe the problem we are trying to solve is a participation/tanking problem and not a "the best teams are getting hosed" problem. And what we don't want are multiple inactive teams in the same division year after year. So by realigning the teams over the past 5 years' stats, it should balance out our competitive owners as well as our inactive teams. And, Rocks, I don't think this has to be an every year thing, but it probably isn't bad to do every 5 years or so.
These are just my thoughts on the problem we are trying to solve. If I'm wrong on this, please respond with what the problem actually is.
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Sept 7, 2022 15:00:07 GMT -6
Also if there are 4 divisions and you play those team more it is easier to make up ground
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Sept 8, 2022 17:30:51 GMT -6
You guys already got your minds made up.
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Sept 8, 2022 19:29:21 GMT -6
Not at all I'm willing to have a constructive conversation where ever you stand and open to whatever everyone thinks is best. I think Mets feels the same.
But so far you have added nothing of value to the conversation. Just an "I told you so" and what's the point of that.
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Post by Baltimore Orioles (Sidney) on Sept 9, 2022 22:58:19 GMT -6
Maybe adding the additional wild card teams like MLB did? And both leagues playing eachother an even amount of times. Should have the same result of keeping more teams in it?
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Sept 10, 2022 7:14:47 GMT -6
If you want the best teams in the play offs we have to drop the weighted schedule and go to 1 division. That's the only way. If you're in the best division the number two team in that division could be better than every other team out side the division and still not get in due to the other 3 teams strength.
I don't know why we are fixated on divisions and not getting the best teams in. Rivalrys don't matter to most of us and won't matter if we mix up divisions anyways.
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Sept 10, 2022 11:14:03 GMT -6
If you're in the best division the number two team in that division could be better than every other team out side the division and still not get in due to the other 3 teams strength. This is not true as we have 6 playoffs team, 4 division winners and the next 2 top teams. I don't know why we are fixated on divisions and not getting the best teams in. Rivalrys don't matter to most of us and won't matter if we mix up divisions anyways. I don't think anyone that has commented could be accused of being fixated on rivalries. I think you are misunderstanding why some people prefer to keep the 4 divisions. It is to keep more teams engaged by giving them a better chance. Same reason every sports league in real life is broken up into divisions... In fact my preference would be to play roto and have one division but when I look at it objectively for the health of the league, I don't see how that will help keep teams engaged all season long. In fact I see it doing the opposite. The only positive I see with one division is the 6 "best" teams make the playoffs. And that is not entirely true because even with one division in head to head there will be an unbalanced schedule due to the number of weeks played. Are there other positives of one division that I am missing?
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Post by Baltimore Orioles (Sidney) on Sept 12, 2022 15:14:35 GMT -6
Then why wouldn't we keep the divisions as is. Or change them for that matter. And have an 8 team playoff?
Better division if needed and half the teams are in it till the end.
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Sept 13, 2022 8:29:39 GMT -6
Let’s give everyone a participation trophy and make the entire season worthless!
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Sept 13, 2022 10:10:22 GMT -6
Let’s give everyone a participation trophy and make the entire season worthless! Exactly!! O's - We expanded the playoffs a few years back to include the two wild cards to give more teams a chance and to help make up for those instances where there are loaded divisions and weak ones. However, we are not playing to try to make a larger profit margin so I have zero interest in expanding it so half the league makes it in.
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Sept 14, 2022 16:47:40 GMT -6
I just wanted to update everyone on the Mariners franchise. I went ahead a removed the current ownership group and we already have a replacement lined up.
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on Sept 19, 2022 3:51:34 GMT -6
I just wanted to update everyone on the Mariners franchise. I went ahead a removed the current ownership group and we already have a replacement lined up. Thank you
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