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Post by Atlanta Braves GM(T.J.) on May 15, 2013 9:41:52 GMT -6
The increase in prospects and therefor rookie contracts is a real concern of mine for the future of the league. We could get to a point where guys could field a whole competitive team for half the salary cap.
I have a simple solution. Double the rookie wage scale or decrease the salary cap.
Does anyone else feel the same or am i alone in this?
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on May 15, 2013 9:50:24 GMT -6
I am totally on board but the one thing I will say is the same issue we always get into. Some guys have already set their teams and planned for the future with these rules. This is why I agree 100% with Cubs as I HATE ALL THE RULE CHANGES!
With that said I don't even think doubling the rookies is enough but I'm on board either way. I think an easier solution though may be adding a utility spot and/or another relief slot. Makes you have to fill those spots more carefully which increases established guys value. Just my 2 cents which somehow always seems to get everyone angry lol
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 10:00:53 GMT -6
The increase in prospects and therefor rookie contracts is a real concern of mine for the future of the league. We could get to a point where guys could field a whole competitive team for half the salary cap. I have a simple solution. Double the rookie wage scale or decrease the salary cap. Does anyone else feel the same or am i alone in this? Yes i have posted an example but i dont mind , we shud try it and see how it goes |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 10:02:33 GMT -6
I am totally on board but the one thing I will say is the same issue we always get into. Some guys have already set their teams and planned for the future with these rules. This is why I agree 100% with Cubs as I HATE ALL THE RULE CHANGES! With that said I don't even think doubling the rookies is enough but I'm on board either way. I think an easier solution though may be adding a utility spot and/or another relief slot. Makes you have to fill those spots more carefully which increases established guys value. Just my 2 cents which somehow always seems to get everyone angry lol Yea maybe we cud add 2 eextra stats two and make it more interesting Add QS and another hitting stats Maybe Total Bases For next year |
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Post by Colorado Rockies GM(John) on May 15, 2013 10:04:05 GMT -6
I think of those two solutions increasing the rookie wage scale would be the way to go. Teams have now signed guys for the next 3-4 years (some for huge dollars) based on the current salary cap so I dont see how you could decrease it now in fairness. Unless you are talking about 5 years from now.
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on May 15, 2013 10:19:52 GMT -6
I would be for raising the rookie wage scale if we left current rookie contracts as is and applied it to next years rookie class.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2013 10:35:04 GMT -6
I would be for raising the rookie wage scale if we left current rookie contracts as is and applied it to next years rookie class. Good point! |
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Post by New York Yankees GM(Tommy) on May 15, 2013 10:43:19 GMT -6
that is a great point I did not take int account
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on May 15, 2013 10:55:57 GMT -6
what is everyone thinking as far as values go.
Off the top my head i would be ok with something like.
1.25
2.5
5
10
That way you are still getting value in the first two years and if he's a slow developer you can afford to hang onto to him to see if he pans out. And you're paying about the avg price the next two.
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Post by New York Mets GM(Randy) on May 16, 2013 15:48:02 GMT -6
I am on board with doing something. I'm also fine with not increasing prospect limits or the draft as well. I realize that there are talented undrafted prospects who are performing but that will always be the case. Right now there is more of a penalty if you make a bad pick and makes your research more important. Increasing the draft & prospects actually allows people to get lazy with deciding who to draft. All of us had plenty of opportunity to draft the players that are missed. In fact, very few of them are actually unknown to us. We just chose to draft others. It also allows wise owners to research which MLB players are no longer prospects according to MLB but are available to us (Doolittle, Henderson, Rogers this year alone). I thought about Jim Henderson this year but chose Mark Rogers instead. Stupid decision on my part but it makes my decision more important when I can't just take the other guy in later rounds. Almost all of us draft potential talent over immediate MLB contribution. Increasing the prospect limit & draft actually makes this league easier & doesn't make our decisions as costly. Just my thoughts.
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Post by New York Mets GM(Randy) on May 16, 2013 15:55:58 GMT -6
Pretty soon the only available talent will be from the incoming draft class and nothing else.
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Post by Cardinals GM(Jared) on May 16, 2013 18:05:56 GMT -6
Mets...I hear you.
This league started with 16 teams and unlimited rosters and 8 round drafts.
It was intended to be a dynasty and not the half prospects and half 1 year contract league that we have seen.
When we had unlimited prospects and idiot managers that may have been extreme, but those of us who have been here from the beginning want it to be a DEEP league. There are less people trading picks every year and that is balancing the draft squads...
Players we didn't draft over the last 4 years...
Paul goldscmidt
Salvador Perez
Asdrubal Cabrera
Ricky Romero (he was good for a year or two)
Adam Lind
Pablo Sandoval
Quentin
Carlos Gonzalez
Corbin
Miley
worley
smardizja
griffin
Josh Johnson
Medlen
and the list goes on...
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 19:15:32 GMT -6
Miley and Sharky were Drafted!
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Post by Cincinnati Reds (Mike) on May 17, 2013 16:26:56 GMT -6
I would be fine with increasing the rookie pay scale, leaving the option to cut in the offseason without penalty. I think the scale someone mentioned before sounds pretty good ($1.25/2.5/5/10); I honestly wouldn't even mind a little higher.
I think this would give us a lot more available players for free agency too. I'll pay Wade Davis $2.5 or Ross Detwiler $4, but I'd think twice before giving them $5 or $10. Hopefully this would let us get away from the 1-year $60 contracts too.
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Post by Brewers GM(Mike) on Nov 9, 2013 21:50:37 GMT -6
Do we still want to consider raising the rookie wage scale going forward?
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